Supporting the Supporters
A conversation with Judith Hartlmaier from Positive Impactpreneur
What if doing meaningful work didn’t come at the cost of your well-being - or your income?
That’s the question I explore in this week’s episode of Stories for the Future with Judith Hartlmaier, the founder of Positive Impactpreneur. Judith’s work is dedicated to a group that often gets overlooked in conversations about change: the supporters.
The facilitators, the educators, the consultants, the space-holders.
The ones helping others lead transformation.
The ones who often run on empty.
And sometimes… the ones who quietly burn out while trying to make everything better.
💡 Who supports the people who support everyone else?
Judith’s mission is clear: to build a stronger, more sustainable ecosystem around those doing impact work, especially those working behind the scenes. Through Positive Impactpreneur, she and her team help service providers (solo and organizational) blend revenue and purpose in a way that feels… actually possible.
In our conversation, we talk about:
Why the "impact vs. money" narrative needs to go
The surprising overlap between regeneration and financial sustainability
How to design learning journeys that truly create systemic change
Why so many changemakers don’t make it - and how we can change that
🔁 From burnout to blended value
If you’ve ever felt conflicted about charging money for your services…
If you’ve ever defaulted to saying yes to unpaid work “for the cause”…
If you’ve ever felt proud of the impact but scared about the numbers…
This episode is for you.
One of my favourite takeaways from our conversation was the idea of “blended value creation.” It’s not just about making enough money to survive. It’s about designing your work - and your offers - in a way that supports systems change and sustains you over time.
🌍 For the facilitators, educators, consultants, and quiet rebels
Many of my listeners fall into this space - the ones who help others do big things. The ones behind community initiatives, capacity-building programs, university transitions, climate communication efforts, cross-sector collaborations, and more.
Judith calls this the supportive ecosystem - and she’s on a mission to help it thrive.
So whether you're running your own consultancy, dreaming up your next course, holding space for others, or simply trying to figure out how to stay true to your mission without burning out… I think this conversation will offer something grounding, expansive, and real.
🎧 Listen to the full episode:
➡️ Click here to listen to Supporting the Supporters: Judith Hartlmaier on Regenerative Work That Pays
🎓 And if you're curious about how to better align your impact and revenue, I highly recommend Judith’s free masterclass: The Impact–Revenue Paradox
🙏 A big thank you to Creative Space
This episode was made possible with support from Creative Space, a community I’m proud to be a part of - one that truly believes in creating room (and resources) for meaningful work to flourish.
Let me know what resonates - and if you're someone who identifies as a supporter, a systems-thinker, or someone quietly trying to hold the world together… this one’s especially for you.